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发表于 24-7-2015 02:16 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Malaysia Property Flipping and its Ugly Effect
Posted by: Vanitha Nadaraj June 24, 2015        in Business, Economics, Featured, Malaysia

It was the lure of fast and easy money, lots of it, that made James Lam jump at the chance to be a Malaysia property speculator or property flipping. That was two years ago and he immediately signed up for a series of training when his friend told him about it. The thought of buying properties and selling them quick for a good profit excited him.
“I was greedy,” says the 53-year-old who is in the top management of a multinational company. He already has a well-paying job, but the opportunity was too good to resist. In the Malaysia property speculation training, he was taught how to look for good bargains in the secondary residential property and different ways of beating the system. “I managed to sell a couple of houses and made a decent amount of money,” Mr Lam tells The Establishment Post.
One way of beating the system is to secure loans for several properties from as many banks all at the same time. If done all at once, the banks will also do the checks all at once and find that he is creditworthy. In 2010, the central bank Bank Negara Malaysia introduced pre-emptive measures to limit the number of outstanding housing loans so as to cool the Malaysia property market. Once Mr Lam gets the bank loans, he has to make sure he sells the properties quickly and at a higher price before the loan repayment commences. He has a small window period of a few months to get this done.
But this did not happen for the two properties in a prime area in Kuala Lumpur that he now has. “I cannot get a buyer. Not even a tenant (to rent). I have to start paying the banks for the loans with my own money.” He also realises that the property market is slowing down and his chances of selling these properties off is getting slimmer by the day. With Real Property Gains Tax made steeper in 2014 at 30 per cent for properties sold within three years, he would need to have a huge profit margin to offset the tax.
The mighty flippers may flop
Situations like this are nothing new to Siva Shanker. He has seen loads of such cases and he does not see a rosy end to this tale. His 34 years of experience as a real estate agent tells him that Mr Lam will either start cutting down his expenses so he has spare money to service the banks loans until a buyer comes along. “Or he will start borrowing from relatives or, worst still, from loan sharks.”
Photo courtesy of Siva Shanker
“A sharp rise in value (of properties) creates the flipping culture,” says Siva Shanker

The number of property speculators, or flippers, caught between a rock and a hard place are likely to increase as the market slows, says the chief executive officer of the Agency of PPC International Sdn Bhd. PPC International is a 24-year-old company that handles a wide range of services from valuation to estate agency, property management, research and consultancy.
“A sharp rise in value (of properties) creates the flipping culture,” he tells The Establishment Post. “In 2010, 2011 and 2012, thousands of properties were sold to flippers. These are people who neither need the property nor can afford to buy it. They buy it purely on speculation,” adds Mr Shanker, the immediate past president of the Malaysian Institute of Estate Agents.
Getting the DIBS on Malaysia Property Flipping
One of the reasons for a huge rise in flippers is the Developer Interest-Bearing Scheme (Dibs) where a house buyer need not pay down payment upon signing of the sale and purchase agreement. The developer will also bear the other expenses like stamp duty, legal fees and also interest on finance during the project construction period until the handing over of the keys. This is when the buyer will have to come up with the remaining payment. In essence, the buyer only pays for 90 per cent of the property value. In Malaysia, down payment for properties is at 10 per cent.
It may appear to be a win-win situation for all. The buyer thinks he is paying less for a property, and the developer has a marketing tool to sell properties quick. But speculators do not realise is that the value of properties sold under Dibs are actually marked up. This artificially hikes the property value and has caused the property market to rise unnaturally. Dibs was scrapped in Malaysia Budget 2014. Bank Negara was forced to take this measure when household debt soared to 86.8 percent of gross domestic product in 2013.
But the worst is not over. The effect of Malaysia property flipping is going to hit the property market in a bad way, according to Mr Shanker. “We will see a new category in property transactions – properties from flippers.” Presently, all property transactions involve the primary market, which are the newly built units, and the secondary market, which are the houses built and bought long ago that have now been sold.
He feels this category of property transactions will constitute a sizeable “5 to 10 per cent of new stock”. Flippers may be forced to sell their properties at much reduced, or even lower than the purchase price, so not to be saddled with a property they cannot afford to hold. So when a sizeable number of properties are made available in the market at much reduced prices, it is not going to be pretty for property investors and owners.
Iskandar under flipper attack
When talking about the economic region in the southern state of Johor, Iskandar Malaysia, Mr Shanker says that Iskandar is a case of a great development project that is overbuilt in one sector, namely housing. “Everything else is still blue chip.”
He says Iskandar has everything working for it: a state government that is committed towards supporting this region by building good infrastructure; supporting industries and incentives for businesses to start and develop; supported by world-class health and education sectors. It is all that Singapore would need to accommodate its growth.
“But the idea got hijacked. Flippers rushed in and one sector is grossly overbuilt. We should give Iskandar a chance to grow,” he adds.
Elsewhere, property flipping is losing its appeal
Property flipping is fast becoming a thing of the past in the West. “China, Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong are now where the West have been and gone through,” Vijay Manavalan, a property negotiator in Malaysia involved in promoting properties in UK for investment.
“To get value out of property investment, it is best to get slow income, and not flip. There will not be many more markets around the world to flip. Investors need to look at the rental income that can be generated,” he tells The Establishment Post.
He says that many Malaysians and Singaporeans are starting to see the wisdom in this and are buying properties in the provinces in the United Kingdom. Generally, in places where they had done their tertiary education like Birmingham and Brighton.
“A property in London is like a trophy asset, not purely investment but trophy-led. Yields from rental are not as high as the yields in provinces outside London,” he says. “London experienced the flipping from 2001-2014. Cooling measures have been put in place last year. We’re not predicting too much growth in London.”
With a combination of government measures and diminishing opportunities, Malaysia property flipping may just be a thing of the past and Malaysian property market can be allowed to grow naturally and at a steady pace.




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发表于 24-7-2015 02:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
好心就翻译华语啦,白痴,你放到那么没诚意,就不用放啦。真傻海
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发表于 24-7-2015 03:36 PM | 显示全部楼层


看了一下图表,从 2011年到 2014年,volume of transcation 有下跌,但 total value of transcations 却是在稳步上涨。换句话说平均的交易价其实是在不停上升吧。
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 楼主| 发表于 24-7-2015 04:38 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
chosenlc 发表于 24-7-2015 02:48 PM
好心就翻译华语啦,白痴,你放到那么没诚意,就不用放啦。真傻海

学英文lah。。。这样你才知道stupid和idiot是什么意思。

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 楼主| 发表于 24-7-2015 04:46 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
haryewkun 发表于 24-7-2015 03:36 PM
看了一下图表,从 2011年到 2014年,volume of transcation 有下跌,但 total value of transcations  ...

泡沫洩氣时都会是以下如此情况:

首先量先跌。。。然后量价齐趺!
这过程大约是几年的。。光景,只不过温水煮青蛙,大家现在还没感觉。
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发表于 24-7-2015 05:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
Bubble2015 发表于 24-7-2015 04:38 PM
学英文lah。。。这样你才知道stupid和idiot是什么意思。

这里是华文论坛,最近有很多狗在乱吠,痴人说梦话希望屋子送给他
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发表于 24-7-2015 05:21 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
Bubble2015 发表于 24-7-2015 04:38 PM
学英文lah。。。这样你才知道stupid和idiot是什么意思。

这里是中文论坛,还有就是请注意你的发言。
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 楼主| 发表于 24-7-2015 06:07 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
是誰先骂人白痴和sohai ! 笨蛋請回复!

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发表于 24-7-2015 06:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
请问长长的英文那句说“烧到手”?
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 楼主| 发表于 24-7-2015 07:25 PM | 显示全部楼层
elmond 发表于 24-7-2015 06:36 PM
请问长长的英文那句说“烧到手”?

Mr Lam will either start cutting down his expenses so he has spare money to service the banks loans until a buyer comes along. “Or he will start borrowing from relatives or, worst still, from loan sharks.”
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 楼主| 发表于 24-7-2015 07:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
elmond 发表于 24-7-2015 06:36 PM
请问长长的英文那句说“烧到手”?

Understand ? Agent
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 楼主| 发表于 24-7-2015 07:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
台北和新北市两个城市的房产仲介agent和代销有約1.5万人,但是今年6月双北市的房产买卖合計6,581棟.

66%的agent吃蛋!

https://youtu.be/bzY-BBSH7vE?lis ... 79St3LZg94l-SwGhcto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= ... SwGhcto&index=3
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发表于 24-7-2015 08:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
谢谢分享。
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发表于 24-7-2015 09:46 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
一天还没泡沫这些都是rubbish

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mchen3389 + 5 只有泡沫真的破了,才叫:

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 楼主| 发表于 24-7-2015 10:14 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
shitfireman 发表于 24-7-2015 09:46 PM
一天还没泡沫这些都是rubbish

担心了吗!只会说氣话!不要任性了!
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发表于 25-7-2015 12:13 AM | 显示全部楼层
Bubble2015 发表于 24-7-2015 04:46 PM
泡沫洩氣时都会是以下如此情况:

首先量先跌。。。然后量价齐趺!

从你给的图表,看到的是,由于屋价涨了,虽然交易次数比较少(怀疑是银行压制贷款的缘故),但总交易额还是在上升中。从 2011年的 137bil,上升到 2012年的 142bil,2013年的 152 bil,2014年的 162bil。

总交易额 = 平均价格 x 交易次数,当总交易额上升,交易次数下降意味着平均价格上升。这意味着屋子的交易价越来越高。也就是说,如果你是投资者,你的卖价是高于买价=赚钱。

交易次数比较少,除了银行压制贷款的缘故,还有一个可能是,屋主看到屋价是在上升,他们不要卖。如果现在是泡沫泄气,屋主普遍要卖,那么平均交易价就不应该是上升而是下降。

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发表于 25-7-2015 01:04 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
haryewkun 发表于 25-7-2015 12:13 AM
从你给的图表,看到的是,由于屋价涨了,虽然交易次数比较少(怀疑是银行压制贷款的缘故),但总交易额还 ...

非常赞同,平均房价的提升一针见血地刺破了泡沫之说。
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 楼主| 发表于 25-7-2015 08:12 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
大多数人和你们的想法一样只看房价,不看房屋交易數量下跌,不看bank negara 的打房政策,不看银行严格放房贷(你以为全部人可以用cash买),不去想想为什么银行这么做?如果短期內房贷不放宽,developers和投机客卖得慢,资金回籠慢,还得起银行货款没有。。。
再加上接下来两三年许多房产projects相继落成,造成有价无市的现象恶化。。。
现在世界经济尤其是中国正加速放緩,美国将加息,大马原产品和石油出口,还有零吉重挫。。。
那么多难于负担的高价房产誰來接盘?难道是收入不高,家债太高的多数大马人?
之前你们说房价高,但是还是很多人买!
现在你们说买的人减少了,但是房价还是升啊!
大马发展商和hold住很多units的投机客听着,有价无市是一个预兆!房产下行去年头己开始,现在在持续中。。。。
By the way, 告诉你们一个消息,新加坡的住宅property己经连续21个月跌价了!

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发表于 25-7-2015 08:35 AM | 显示全部楼层
Bubble2015 发表于 25-7-2015 08:12 AM
大多数人和你们的想法一样只看房价,不看房屋交易數量下跌,不看bank negara 的打房政策,不看银行严格放房 ...

确实有一肿人是明知道美国会升息也会买的,他们的理由很简单,那就是怕吃亏,若现在不买的话,等大马银行跟美国升息才买不是更吃亏吗?他们以为升息好像gst一样,可以在施行前买货来存,把房子当成生活用品可能吗?除非是用cash买吧。他们跟超级富豪的思惟本来就不一样,他们觉得自己能安然度过一场经济风暴已经很了不起了,而超级富豪的思惟不是如何安然度过一场风暴,而是如何不让自己的身家在风暴中大缩水,如果李嘉诚的思惟也跟他们一样只懂得守的话,他到今天还是亚洲首富吗?


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发表于 25-7-2015 10:06 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
chosenlc 发表于 24-7-2015 02:48 PM
好心就翻译华语啦,白痴,你放到那么没诚意,就不用放啦。真傻海

我同意你说的,但斯文点,有点粗啊哈哈
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