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发表于 15-7-2012 12:03 AM
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回复 70# waja2000
T-50也很顺利，不逊J-20
[youtube]SF8t0zu_49g[/youtube] |
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发表于 15-7-2012 12:53 AM
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回复 waja2000
T-50也很顺利，不逊J-20
putrejeye 发表于 15-7-2012 12:03 AM 
前一个礼拜有消息说T-50出现机身问题，几架T-50试飞机已经不能用，不过我个人不太看好T-50... 的水准。 |
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发表于 15-7-2012 01:00 AM
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发表于 15-7-2012 01:28 AM
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那是上个月的新闻，这个新视频是7月的。
也许是要表演给印度看，新的试飞机能用。:lol ...
putrejeye 发表于 15-7-2012 01:00 AM
试飞还有其他机， 但最终只有一个问题，就是成军会延后， 甚至大有可能比J-20更迟 ....对我而言，单看外形就知道最终无法和J-20比吧，而且只能说还不到5代机，最多只4.75代。 |
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发表于 15-7-2012 01:38 AM
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发表于 15-7-2012 02:39 PM
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最好还是FC1，TYPHOON是用黄金做的 |
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发表于 16-7-2012 01:34 PM
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回复 76# MARK-II
用武力来衡量拥有权？ |
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发表于 19-7-2012 12:53 AM
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发表于 21-7-2012 02:04 PM
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本帖最后由 waja2000 于 21-7-2012 02:06 PM 编辑
The Star前天新闻， BAE大力反击，不惜准备63亿的投资......
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/7/20/business/20120720142817&sec=business
Report: Eurofighter consortium ready to invest RM6.3bil in offset programmes
LONDON: Eurofighter consortium, lead by BAE Systems, is ready to invest RM6.3 billion in offset programmes designed specifically for Malaysia within the next five years.
BAE Systems' Senior Industrial Partnerships and Offset Manager, Mike Perret said the group has collectively invested RM3.5 billion over the last five years in Malaysia.
"We been talking to our European partner companies involved in the Eurofighter Typhoon and that's the level of investment that they already and are planning to undertake..
"Together with our European partners, we're looking at delivering significant value - not only original equipment manufacturer partners, but also supply chains down to SMEs.
"We have the financial and technical capability to deliver," Perret told Bernama at BAE Systems' facilities in Warton, about 400km from here.
He said the group was looking at the best long-term offset projects with genuine technologies, not only on a national basis, but also regionally, thus providing access for Malaysian companies to move into global growth.
Primarily most of the projects are in the manufacturing sector but the global defence, aerospace and security company would like to move away from traditional manufacturing into areas such as avionics and green technologies.
Perret said Malaysia has moved into different industrial relations particularly in its offset requirements.
"In the past offset used to be around what we called "build to print" projects. You set up a factory, produce an item and sell it at market place. Generally those programmes been short-lived and difficult to sustain. That's more in the past.
"The growth that Malaysia is looking for now is in terms of per capita growth which is more likely to come out of the transfers of capabilities and technologies.
"We are now focusing our offset programmes in industrial partnering in areas around technologies and working at how we might exploit them," he said.
Citing an example, Perret said BAE Systems has an advanced technology centre in United Kingdom with about 450 engineers working predominantly on Blue Skies Technologies.
"We take the technologies that we developed and apply them to our business in terms of aerospace and defence but many of those technologies have the potential spin off that isn't aerospace or defence and could be exploited but we don't exploit them because it's not our core business," he added.
Perret said BAE Systems was prepared to share the intellectual property rights that it developed with companies that could exploit the technologies in areas outside technologies and defence.
"This is the model we know the Malaysian Industry-Government Group for High Technology (MIGHT) has been emphasising in their work - in terms of what technologies that can benefit Malaysia and also what technologies being developed in Malaysia that could be exploited through a company like BAE Systems that will have a global reach," Perret said.
The group is also looking at opportunities to provide technology that is not only for Malaysia's requirement but making the country the central focal point for expansion in the Asean region.
In relation to this, BAE Systems plans to transfer a hybrid technology for fuel systems for vehicles such as buses, trucks and military vehicles in Malaysia for the Asean market.
"We're hoping that the on-going discussions and negotiations that we're having will result in being able to set up the project in Malaysia," Perret added. - BERNAMA |
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发表于 21-7-2012 04:16 PM
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发表于 21-7-2012 04:47 PM
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Boilwater 发表于 21-7-2012 04:16 PM 
不知道Typhoon的63亿比较大，还是Khoo的12亿比牛车轮大？
很快有马溜戏 ...
看看就好， 这些都是offer不是考虑的重点， 大马未必会用到的技术。
我觉得还是Rafale的可能性比较大。加上买台风要花120亿以上， 估计大马政府很难下手。
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发表于 21-7-2012 05:02 PM
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发表于 21-7-2012 05:24 PM
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FC1最好 |
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发表于 21-7-2012 08:13 PM
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BAE這些只是口頭投資，同時也得看他們要投資甚麽項目，如果貿易補償很適合我國，Typhoon還有一線生機。
不過，以我目前的觀察，Rafale is the BEST CHOICE,連財政部官員都去法國看廠了，已進入最後的決定階段。沒有去BAE, apa pun tak ada ! |
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发表于 21-7-2012 08:35 PM
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发表于 21-7-2012 10:58 PM
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本帖最后由 waja2000 于 21-7-2012 11:00 PM 编辑
63亿是新开头承诺投资， 没有错， 当然那些技术大马未必能吸收或工业有用，大马政府很当然了解， 而且数目太大，根本已经是战机的50%, 有点夸大的成分。
35亿是5年以来， 有没有这样多我个人也怀疑 .... 当然以前大马和BAE买不少武器，多多少少有本地一定投资， 但估计以后也很难再买BAE的武器了。
日后政府买台风或阵风都会有定夺的一天。 到时也无所谓了， 当然如果很有可能什么都不买了， 或如果..买FC1也是有可能的 |
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发表于 22-7-2012 12:06 AM
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发表于 22-7-2012 12:07 AM
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看来有人动手脚，修改文章 |
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