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粉碎的黄金泡沫 --- 普洱茶的神话
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发表于 18-1-2009 04:48 PM
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这所谓‘物极必反’的原则。人的生活必需品为‘柴,米,油,盐,茶’。 茶排在末端。所以农民选择种玉米和稻米是可以理解的。
对于爱好喝茶的我,这并不见得是一件坏事。 希望今后可以喝到一些品质好一点,又不会太贵的普洱。 |
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粉碎的黄金泡沫!现在种玉粟米好过种普洱!![](static/image/smiley/default/sweat.gif)
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/business/16227-thousands-ruined-as-chinese-tea-bubble-bursts
Thousands ruined as Chinese tea bubble bursts KUNMING, Jan 18 – Saudi Arabia has its oil. South Africa has itsdiamonds. And here in China’s temperate south-west, prosperity has comefrom the scrubby green tea trees that blanket the mountains of fabledMenghai County.
Over the past decade, as the nation went wild for the region’s brandof tea, known as pu’er, farmers bought minivans, manufacturers becamemillionaires and Chinese citizens ploughed their savings into blackbricks of compacted pu’er.
But that was before the collapse of the tea market turned thousandsof farmers and dealers into paupers and provided the nation with a verypungent lesson about gullibility, greed and the perils of thespeculative bubble.
“Most of us are ruined,” said Mr Fu Wei, 43, one of the few teatraders to survive the implosion of the pu’er market. “A lot of peoplebehaved like idiots.”
A pleasantly aromatic beverage that promoters claim reducescholesterol and cures hangovers, pu’er became the darling of thesipping classes in recent years as this nation’s nouveaux richesembraced a distinctly Chinese way to display their wealth and investtheir savings.
From 1999 to 2007, the price of pu’er, a fermented brew invented byTang Dynasty traders, increased tenfold, to a high of US$150 (S$220) apound for the finest aged pu’er, before tumbling far below its pre-boomlevels.
For tens of thousands of wholesalers, farmers and other Chinesecitizens who poured their money into compressed disks of tea leaves,the crash of the pu’er market has been nothing short of disastrous.
Many investors were led to believe that pu’er prices could only go up.
“The saying around here was ‘It’s better to save pu’er than to savemoney’,” said Wang Ruoyu, a long-time dealer in Xishuangbanna, thelush, tea-growing region of Yunnan province that abuts the Myanmarborder.
“Everyone thought they were going to get rich.”
Fermented tea was hardly the only caffeinated investment frenzy that swept China during its boom years.
The urban middle class speculated mainly in stock and real estate,pushing prices to stratospheric levels before exports slumped, growthslowed and hundreds of billions of dollars in paper profits disappearedover the past year.
In the mountainous pu’er belt of Yunnan, a cabal of manipulativebuyers cornered the tea market and drove prices to record levels,giving some farmers and county traders a taste of the country’s bubble- and its bitter aftermath.
At least a third of the 3,000 tea manufacturers and merchants havecalled it quits in recent months. Farmers have begun replacing newlyplanted tea trees with more nourishing - and now, more lucrative -staples like corn and rice.
Wu Xiduan, secretary-general of the China Tea Marketing Association,said many naive investors had been taken in by the frenzied atmosphere,largely whipped up by out-of-town wholesalers who promoted pu’er asdrinkable gold and then bought up as much as they could, sometimespaying up to 30 per cent more than in previous harvests.
He said that as farmers planted more tea, production doubled, from 2006 to 2007, to 100,000 tonnes.
In the final free-for-all months, some producers shipped their teato Yunnan from other provinces, labelled it pu’er, and then enjoyedhuge mark-ups.
When values hit absurd levels last spring, the buyers unloaded their stocks and disappeared. – NYT |
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发表于 18-1-2009 07:36 PM
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海鳥公司炒的一桶金
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发表于 18-1-2009 07:47 PM
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只有海鳥才会敢吹"中国全民爱上普洱茶"
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发表于 19-1-2009 02:27 PM
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发表于 19-1-2009 08:00 PM
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原帖由 摇滚茶 于 18-1-2009 04:48 PM 发表 ![](http://cforum9.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif)
对于爱好喝茶的我,这并不见得是一件坏事。 希望今后可以喝到一些品质好一点,又不会太贵的普洱。
我也希望茶能够越来越便宜(卖茶的不要骂我! )。 |
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发表于 19-1-2009 08:02 PM
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发表于 19-1-2009 09:39 PM
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回复 7# jhhoe 的帖子
何只不爽, 根本就恨之入骨把印級茶炒到過萬是海鳥少東親自到台湾操手的, (这批印级茶己在前年放手了{高峰期}) 
然後再搞这基金更可怕, 龙生先把茶卖给益成, 成交價不知但益成卖给海鳥可是 RM壹佰萬 (益成茶行可是陳家的) 
而海鳥卖給基金会是 RM1,000,000 X 10 nia nia 
普洱茶在它们的手, 巳被妙了几桶金??你是愛茶人, 你能爽它嗎??
[ 本帖最后由 茶艺论坛 于 19-1-2009 09:41 PM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 20-1-2009 03:01 PM
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原帖由 茶艺论坛 于 19-1-2009 09:39 PM 发表 ![](http://cforum9.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif)
何只不爽, 根本就恨之入骨把印級茶炒到過萬是海鳥少東親自到台湾操手的, (这批印级茶己在前年放手了{高峰期})
然後再搞这基金更可怕, 龙生先把茶卖给益成, 成交價不知但益成卖给海鳥可是 RM壹佰萬 (益成茶行可是陳家的)
而海鳥卖給基金会是 RM1,000,000 X 10 nia nia
普洱茶在它们的手, 巳被妙了几桶金??你是愛茶人, 你能爽它嗎??
谢谢分享!只是你又如何知道这些消息呢?
还有就算不涨价,我也没钱买印級茶,![](static/image/smiley/default/shy.gif) |
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发表于 20-1-2009 07:10 PM
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发表于 20-1-2009 11:16 PM
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发表于 21-1-2009 02:30 AM
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发表于 25-1-2009 10:30 PM
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原帖由 jhhoe 于 21-1-2009 11:23 AM 发表 ![](http://cforum4.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif)
我N年前读过Marketing,你的讲法不能成立!![](static/image/smiley/default/shy.gif)
按照供与求的原理(Demand &Supply),应该是
没人要,就不会有价钱。
有人要,就要看供与求是否能够平衡了。
多人要,价钱可能会起。
少人要,价钱肯定会 ...
说的也不无道理,但这回的价格暴涨不是因为有很多消费者的需求而暴涨,而是因为有很多财团(尤其是内陆的)为了快速致富,看准了普洱市场来炒作导致普洱价格暴涨。事实证明普通消费人的需求没有这么的大,所以又导致暴跌。经过这次的“风暴”,估计普洱市场会趋于平稳道路成长。 |
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发表于 25-1-2009 10:39 PM
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原帖由 茶艺论坛 于 19-1-2009 09:39 PM 发表 ![](http://cforum4.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif)
何只不爽, 根本就恨之入骨把印級茶炒到過萬是海鳥少東親自到台湾操手的, (这批印级茶己在前年放手了{高峰期})
然後再搞这基金更可怕, 龙生先把茶卖给益成, 成交價不知但益成卖给海鳥可是 RM壹佰萬 (益成茶行可 ...
其实印级茶不炒,价格都已经很高了,非我们一般消费人所能负担的起的。我们也无须凑这个热闹。就好像我们只开的起国产车的人,宝马奔驰涨不涨价,我们都还是买不起的。。。。。再说,印级茶越卖越多,还是不买的好。。。。。。![](static/image/smiley/default/lol.gif) |
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发表于 26-1-2009 10:30 AM
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原帖由 阿庄 于 25-1-2009 10:30 PM 发表 ![](http://cforum9.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif)
说的也不无道理,但这回的价格暴涨不是因为有很多消费者的需求而暴涨,而是因为有很多财团(尤其是内陆的)为了快速致富,看准了普洱市场来炒作导致普洱价格暴涨。事实证明普通消费人的需求没有这么的大,所以又导致暴跌。经过这次的“风暴”,估计普洱市场会趋于平稳道路成长。
庄兄说的是。就如股市般,这是有人在背后操纵的。
玩火者,会被火烧伤。很多人现在应该明白了! |
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发表于 7-2-2009 12:25 AM
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发表于 8-2-2009 02:54 PM
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我有相反的意见
呵呵!我觉得海鸟说得没错啊!只是他想得太美好了!全民爱上普洱茶是在普洱茶价格大幅度降下来之后了,而不是爆涨的时候,价格下降了!普通大众消费者有能力喝到真的普洱了!不会象从前一样,市场上充斥着大量的假普洱和伪普洱,消费者很难辨别真伪,这也导致了普洱茶停留在炒价和一些能够消费的人手里,
而现在,普洱茶更接近普通消费者,原来不敢去喝普洱茶的人,都开始尝试喝了,这是我在国内的最大感觉,这情况或许与大马不同吧!
另外我个人觉得:贵的不一定是好茶,但是好茶却一定很贵!![](static/image/smiley/default/biggrin.gif) |
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发表于 8-2-2009 05:04 PM
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原帖由 普洱公子 于 8-2-2009 02:54 PM 发表 ![](http://cforum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif)
呵呵!我觉得海鸟说得没错啊!只是他想得太美好了!全民爱上普洱茶是在普洱茶价格大幅度降下来之后了,而不是爆涨的时候,价格下降了!普通大众消费者有能力喝到真的普洱了!不会象从前一样,市场上充斥着大量的假普洱和伪普 ...
请问便宜的茶就没有好的吗? |
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发表于 10-2-2009 04:40 PM
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回复 19# 摇滚茶 的帖子
呵呵~~~千人千个口感~~在喝茶喝到闻香辩味的过程中!估计嘴喝刁了~~恐怕便宜的茶就没有好茶了~![](static/image/smiley/default/biggrin.gif) |
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