人在多哈（DOHA）

Dez

還好啦。。。。
現在經濟這樣差﹐有份工就算不錯了。。。。

Dez

我也听说 DUBAI 现在很 GAI 一下。。。。。。

Bye-Bye Dubai?
By ex-expat on Fri, 06/02/2009 - 3:09pm
http://business.time...

February 5, 2009
Sonia Verma in Dubai.

For many expatriate workers in Dubai it was the ultimate symbol of their tax-free wealth: a luxurious car that few could have afforded on the money they earned at home.

Now, faced with crippling debts as a result of their high living and Dubai’s fading fortunes, many expatriates are abandoning their cars at the airport and fleeing home rather than risk jail for defaulting on loans.

Police have found more than 3,000 cars outside Dubai’s international airport in recent months. Most of the cars – four-wheel drives, saloons and “a few” Mercedes – had keys left in the ignition.

Some had used-to-the-limit credit cards in the glove box. Others had notes of apology attached to the windscreen.

“Every day we find more and more cars,” said one senior airport security official, who did not want to be named. “Christmas was the worst – we found more than two dozen on a single day.”

When the market collapsed and the emirate’s once-booming economy started to slow down, many expatriates were left owning several homes and unable to pay the mortgages without credit.

“There were a lot of people living the high life, investing in real estate and a lifestyle they couldn’t afford,” one senior banker said.

Under Sharia, which prevails in Dubai, the punishment for defaulting on a debt is severe. Bouncing a check, for example, is punishable with jail. Those who flee the emirate are known as skips.

The abandoned cars underscore a worrying trend. Five years ago the Emir, Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, embarked on an ambitious plan to transform Dubai into a hub for business and tourism. A building boom fuelled double-digit growth, with thousands of Westerners arriving every day, eager to cash in on the emirate’s promise of easy living and wealth.

Many Westerners invested in Dubai’s skyrocketing real estate market, buying and reselling homes before building was even complete. But, as the recession took effect, property and financial companies made thousands of workers redundant and banks tightened lending. Construction companies have delayed or cancelled projects and tourism is slowing.

There are increasing signs that the foreigners who once flocked to Dubai are leaving. “There is no way of tracking actual numbers, but the anecdotal evidence is overwhelming. Dubai is emptying out,” said a Western diplomat.

International schools are having to be flexible on fees as expatriate parents run out of cash. Louise, a single mother from Britain, said that her son’s school had allowed her to pay a partial fee until she found a new job after her redundancy in December. “According to the headmaster, a lot of people had come into the school saying they had lost their jobs so the school was trying to be a bit more flexible,” she said.

Most of the emirate’s banks are not affiliated with British financial institutions, so those who flee do not have to worry about creditors. Their abandoned cars are eventually sold off by the banks at weekly auctions. Those recently advertised include BMWs, Porsches and Mercedes.

Simon Goldsmith, a spokesman for the British Embassy in Dubai, said that that there were approximately 100,000 Britons living in Dubai last year. However, the embassy has no way of tracking how many have fled back to the UK. “We’ve heard stories, but when somebody makes that kind of decision, they generally keep it to themselves,” he said.

Police have issued warrants against owners of the deserted cars. Those who return risk arrest at the airport.

Stats:
3.62 million expatriates in Dubai.

864,000 nationals.

8% population decline predicted this year, as expatriates leave.

1,500 visas cancelled every day in Dubai.

62% of homes occupied by expatriates 60% fall in property values predicted.

50% slump in the price of luxury apartments on Palm Jumeirah.

25% reduction in luxury spending among UAE expatriates.

Sources: arabbusiness.com ; Times database.

magician1688

对对。。
很多人都丢下车子。。。
dubai现在真的很不dim了。
现在这种形势，走的快，好世界。。。
这么多project停。。。
很多公司都遭殃。
dubai凶多吉少咯。。。

evawyh

dubai真的很差..报纸都说有53%的project停工...报出来的有53%..没有报出来的可能更多..基本上, 没有停的project也不见得有走...developer都要terminate现成的承包商retender拿更好的价钱..

Qatar基本上是gulf country济济最不受影响的了..

Dez

Qatar 基本上是 gulf country 里經济受到最少影响的﹐ 暫時來講。。。。。

Abu Dhabi 也是還不錯啊﹐ 對嗎 Eva ﹖

magician1688

听说 Abu Dhabi 要救dubai 的经济哦。。。

Dez

因为 ABU DHABI 才是 UAE 的石油大哥。。。。

DUBAI 是靠 TOURISTSM 和 OFFSHORE BANKING。

[ 本帖最后由 Dez 于 15-2-2009 01:07 PM 编辑 ]

evawyh

原帖由 Dez 于 15-2-2009 01:07 AM 发表
Qatar 基本上是 gulf country 里經济受到最少影响的﹐ 暫時來講。。。。。

Abu Dhabi 也是還不錯啊﹐ 對嗎 Eva ﹖

Abu Dhabi很多公司都是和Dubai有关系的。。所以dubai有问题abu dhabi不见得可以好到那里去。。

abu dhabi的皇族也是在帮着dubai..很多abu dhabi的project也是被review..要考虑是否继续起。。。

有些起着的building,也被停掉。。因为client要趁着经济不好的时候拿到更好的价钱。。他们多数都terminate现有的承包商， 再retender。。

所以。。整体来说还是有蛮大影响的。。

Dez

QATAR 可以 absorb 那麼多人嗎 ﹖

evawyh

原帖由 Dez 于 17-2-2009 10:42 PM 发表
QATAR 可以 absorb 那麼多人嗎 ﹖

我也奇怪。。不过， 我想doha的rental / inflation会起咯。。一下子demand 那么高。。

magician1688

应该会吧。。。
BAHRAIN呢?
有人知道那边的状况如何吗?

Dez

DOHA 的租金和 INFLATION 已经很贵很高了，还要再起啊 ？

倒是没听说 BHARAIN 有事。。。。。

evawyh

原帖由 Dez 于 18-2-2009 07:17 PM 发表
DOHA 的租金和 INFLATION 已经很贵很高了，还要再起啊 ？

倒是没听说 BHARAIN 有事。。。。。

asian game之前doha的monthly rent是平均２０００－３０００(1 bedroom apartment)..
asian game之后。。没有５０００不要想。。
米， ＆ 鸡蛋在２００６－２００８起了近１００％。。油起了３０－５０％左右
所以很难说。。

Dez

唉。。。。薪水就没有起得那么快。。。。。

magician1688

这个都是我们一直困惑的东西。
但是，在经济学里，有个cost push inflation的东西。
起还是不起好呢？
相当矛盾的东西。。。

Dez

我刚租了一个 FULLY FURNISHED SINGLE BEDROOM 的 APARTMENT，QR 6500 一个月。。。。。

在大马，这种價钱我可以住很 HIGH END 的 CONDO 咯。。。。

[ 本帖最后由 Dez 于 22-2-2009 03:47 PM 编辑 ]

magician1688

QR6500??
很难想象哦。
这么贵。。。
住了几个月可以买一辆车了。
屋子要回本也几年罢了。。。
要命。。。
masterbed room 就更死。。。
租完全部房间，要回本的日子，指日可待。。。
一个月几十千的收入不是问题。

一间屋子有几间房间?
3?

Dez

原帖由 magician1688 于 22-2-2009 11:38 PM 发表

QR6500??
很难想象哦。
这么贵。。。
住了几个月可以买一辆车了。
屋子要回本也几年罢了。。。
要命。。。
masterbed room 就更死。。。
租完全部房间，要回本的 ...

是單房的 UNIT﹐ FULLY FURNISHED﹐ 一個廳一個廚房。。。。。我一個人住。

這已不是貴的那種了。。。。。有 FACILITY 的可以貴到 QR12000 以上。

magician1688

原来如此。
还有双倍的哦。

没有几时千的月薪，很难生存。。。

magician1688

名副其实的环游世界。
而且还有钱收tim。
你有的坐免费的直升机也不错嘛。。。
你的site在那里？
该不会是海的正中央吧。。