【NobleGrp N21 交流专区】来宝集团 NOBLE GROUP LIMITED

suntecinvestor

小心NOBLE!!　危险！！！

skyship

suntecinvestor 发表于 30-9-2014 08:49 AM
小心NOBLE!!　危险！！！

跌1毛了，那里拿到的消息？

suntecinvestor

bloomberg, reuters,消息到处有。

ezio

自Iceberg在2月份发出有关来宝集团(Noble Group)的报告以来，来宝的股价下跌了30%，其市值因此减少了18亿美元。尽管公司设法辟谣，但由于面对潜在的会计问题，加上其股价大跌，投资者都选择避开这只股票。

Iceberg Research says Noble Group understates debt
SINGAPORE, March 21 Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:51pm IST
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/03/21/noble-group-iceberg-idINL3N0WN03220150321

(Reuters) - The anonymous blog Iceberg Research issued its third report on commodity trader Noble Group Ltd on Saturday, saying that the Hong Kong-headquartered group had substantially understated its gross and net debt.

"We are aware of the report and are reviewing it," a Noble spokesman told Reuters by email on Saturday.

This follows Iceberg's reports last month when it accused the Singapore-listed company of inflating assets by billions of dollars and questioned its accounting practices.

Noble, one of Asia's biggest commodity traders, has rejected the claims and linked the little-known research firm to an employee it fired in 2013.

Noble's shares have lost as much as $1.8 billion in market value following the reports and the company has pledged to provide more disclosures to improve transparency.

"There are an impressive series of red flags drawn when reviewing Nobles governance," Iceberg said in its 31-page report on the company's governance and debt.

Little is known about Iceberg, which has declined to comment on its background, analysts or its methodology. It said, however, that it did not have a short position on the company. Iceberg has released its reports via social media and blogs.

Commodity traders like Noble can make attractive targets for activist short-sellers alleging accounting anomalies, since such companies often rely on complex methods to value commodity contracts and derivatives on their books. (Reporting by Anshuman Daga; editing by Ralph Boulton)


市场上很多不利noble的消息

aero73

今天有小小回弹。
收0.91。。

bin_258

suntecinvestor 发表于 23-9-2014 10:12 AM
注意。

Noble 可以买吗？ 0.88？

suntecinvestor

暂时不碰这只股，太多阻击公司了。同时，最近要小心了。股市看起来差不多了。我只玩短期, hit and run懂游泳的人才下水。

aero73

suntecinvestor 发表于 14-4-2015 10:18 AM
暂时不碰这只股，太多阻击公司了。同时，最近要小心了。股市看起来差不多了。我只玩短期, hit and run懂游 ...

它得罪很多公司？
大家都攻它。。。
搞到它下了很多。。。。

suntecinvestor

aero73 发表于 14-4-2015 10:39 PM
它得罪很多公司？
大家都攻它。。。
搞到它下了很多。。。。

是不是得罪人我就不知道啦。只能说这间公司账目做到有漏洞，让阻击客有机会放大事件来阻击他。现在有两大势力互相较量，股价应该会波动很大，你在中间，如果抓得到他的动向就赚多咯，相反的你会被他们搞到晕头转向。我自认自己的技术只能在游泳池里游，大海就让其他高手吧。

aero73

suntecinvestor 发表于 15-4-2015 12:50 PM
是不是得罪人我就不知道啦。只能说这间公司账目做到有漏洞，让阻击客有机会放大事件来阻击他。现在有两大 ...

这样股不好搞。。。
要看它的财务等。。。
但我不懂，只知道现在负面新闻太多。
不敢动它。。。

bin_258

今天股票起很多，各位大大知道是什么原因吗？

大地之子G.O.B

够力
跌到妈妈都不认识
为什么会这样

suntecinvestor

注意noble， 公司已经连续3天股票回购，开始反攻向上了。 多多注意CIC的动向，随时他们会成为这公司的白武士。

suntecinvestor

suntecinvestor 发表于 16-6-2015 09:52 AM
注意noble， 公司已经连续3天股票回购，开始反攻向上了。 多多注意CIC的动向，随时他们会成为这公司的白武 ...

因为这支股有很多阻击客，心脏不好的人还是别乱碰。。

suntecinvestor

noble 连续3天从市场上回购股票：-
1. 25,000,000 shares @ $16,768,897.25
2. 25,000,000 shares @ $16,859,106.50
3. 12,978,400 shares @ $9,219,176.94
total 62,978,400 shares average cost $0.68/sh

纯粹个人猜想股价$0.68将是个很强的支持位。理由：　

１。股价如果跌破＄０．６８　说明这公司过去花了$42,847,180.69　为了挽回公众对他的信任都白费了。无论如何，他们都会力保自己的价位。不然公众就会转为阻击客一起阻击他的股价。

２。若是跌穿＄０．６８　，也说明了iceberg, muddy water 等其他的大阻击客成功把股价压下来了，把价格压到比公司回购的成本还低．那么公众也不敢进场了．所以，现阶段$0.68会是noble 公司要力保的价格．


Ps: 若是今天闭市，noble又回购股票，支持位也会相应改变。

u0508950

suntecinvestor 发表于 16-6-2015 03:13 PM
noble 连续3天从市场上回购股票：-
1. 25,000,000 shares @ $16,768,897.25
2. 25,000,000 shares @ $16, ...

昨天的收购价上升到了0.70。

今天的VOLUME比较低了，不过收市价在0.72 不动。。。值得留意管理层持守的价位。

suntecinvestor

u0508950 发表于 16-6-2015 11:39 PM
昨天的收购价上升到了0.70。

今天的VOLUME比较低了，不过收市价在0.72 不动。。。值得留意管理层持守 ...

若是有留意， noble通常都会在回购股票的隔日早上8.30左右在sgx 宣布他们回购的消息。可以在股市还没开始前，计算他们的成本价位作为参考。

suntecinvestor

Noble 又回购了。

yah52

suntecinvestor 发表于 18-6-2015 08:47 AM
Noble 又回购了。

人家的回购价是$0.6939, 而目前的股价是$0.715, 如果我们跳进去, 岂不是又要亏个大洞?

suntecinvestor

yah52 发表于 18-6-2015 09:55 AM
人家的回购价是$0.6939, 而目前的股价是$0.715, 如果我们跳进去, 岂不是又要亏个大洞?

所以越靠近买方价位越好咯。

还是老话一句，风险自负！哈哈。