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发表于 15-4-2013 08:58 PM | 显示全部楼层
kitoroneo 发表于 15-4-2013 04:34 PM
马六甲看到 900D,xt group set,狐狸气叉,4k多,忘了多几多...

在哪里?我想看看。。。
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 楼主| 发表于 15-4-2013 08:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
珏玮 发表于 15-4-2013 02:11 PM
不是,3x9。刚开始用前2后3,但是总会腰很痛。问人了之后,现在先放轻点的牙,前2后1,腰没那么痛了。

有時候不是29er難騎,是腳車太重也很難騎..尤其是輪胎影響最大..
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 楼主| 发表于 15-4-2013 09:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
dreamkl 发表于 15-4-2013 05:46 PM
29 29 29 29 29 29 ...27.5 27.5 .27.5 ...26 26 26 ...

先来看老王卖瓜自卖自夸的威力

上山..一樣的腳力,不一樣的輪寸..小的比較佔優..
下山..一樣的膽量,不一樣的輪寸..都是一樣的佔優..

我覺得下山重要的是膽量,並不是在乎那區區的3寸輪相差..

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发表于 15-4-2013 09:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
Joesty 发表于 15-4-2013 08:59 PM
有時候不是29er難騎,是腳車太重也很難騎..尤其是輪胎影響最大..

左哥,我刚换轮胎了,稍微好骑点了。但脚车还是很重,尤其是crank,可是暂时还不够米升级,唯有先用来练脚力了。
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 楼主| 发表于 15-4-2013 10:08 PM | 显示全部楼层
珏玮 发表于 15-4-2013 09:48 PM
左哥,我刚换轮胎了,稍微好骑点了。但脚车还是很重,尤其是crank,可是暂时还不够米升级,唯有先用来练脚 ...

練好腳力,腳就粗粗大大支..很難看的
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发表于 15-4-2013 10:28 PM | 显示全部楼层
看了新一代神脚极 @珏玮 @kitoroneo  
不敢出太多声,路过路过。。。。。。。
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发表于 15-4-2013 10:34 PM | 显示全部楼层
Joesty 发表于 15-4-2013 10:08 PM
練好腳力,腳就粗粗大大支..很難看的

那我岂不是为了兴趣而断送了我的终身幸福,脚太粗没人要啊。不管了,到时找个脚比我还粗的就可以了

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发表于 15-4-2013 10:35 PM | 显示全部楼层
popia123 发表于 15-4-2013 10:28 PM
看了新一代神脚极 @珏玮 @kitoroneo  
不敢出太多声,路过路过。。。。。。。

什么神脚,两条大大支的脚就有
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发表于 15-4-2013 11:50 PM | 显示全部楼层
珏玮 发表于 15-4-2013 10:34 PM
那我岂不是为了兴趣而断送了我的终身幸福,脚太粗没人要啊。不管了,到时找个脚比我还粗的就可以 ...

你的牙组是什么?怎么crank会重?

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发表于 15-4-2013 11:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
Joesty 发表于 15-4-2013 08:56 PM
我個人覺得29er的牙套如果是T44xt11騎平路不能長途嘍..耗力的很

对!T44x11是不能长途,但那个是留给最后冲刺用的!
非常好用
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发表于 16-4-2013 12:20 AM | 显示全部楼层
珏玮 发表于 15-4-2013 09:48 PM
左哥,我刚换轮胎了,稍微好骑点了。但脚车还是很重,尤其是crank,可是暂时还不够米升级,唯有先用来练脚 ...

什么model?
9speed alivio?

上几张照片看下。
恐怕是不必升级了。




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发表于 16-4-2013 02:34 AM | 显示全部楼层
Nino Schurter wins World Cup #1 on 650b wheels.他身高5尺8寸(1.72M)
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/nino-schurter-wins-world-cup-1-on-650b-wheels-33467/

慢慢读,不明白找GOOGLE兄帮你翻译。Polygon 29寸已经停产了,意思也就是说Kona,Marin,Scott明年不再有新款的29er了,也就是说它们的27.5寸在赶工着,SantaCruz 也已经肯定100%攻27.5寸的市场了,Speacilized 还不敢宣布,因为太多29er存货,要买29ER 的朋友赶快买。Norco All Moutain 27.5 也来了。曾经说过29寸比26寸上山比较快的脚车店到时要自打嘴巴了就好像之前卖Merida 的脚车店告诉我一样,Mavic CrossRide Wheelset 贴纸放Made in Romania是真货 ,放Made in China是假的,现在Merida Matts Lite XT-M 配来的Mavic Crossride Wheelset 是Made In China 也不就是假的咯 ,KNN这脚车店真的是自打嘴巴 http://www.merida-bikes.com/en_int/bike/2013/60/MTB+Hardtails/Matts+Lite+XT-M ,认同29er的应该也是不会从29寸换去27.5寸的吧,因为他们说过26寸上山慢过29er,照他们说的原理应该27.5也是慢过29ER。我看我还是先去牙医绑住我的牙,我担心到时看到29寸换去27.5时我的牙就不保了,Shimano明年的新的Groupset Ratio也就是为了迎接650B的诞生。26寸和29ER 接下来的世界级赛事肯定不会再有奇迹出现了。
本帖最后由 xxman 于 16-4-2013 09:04 AM 编辑

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发表于 16-4-2013 02:39 AM | 显示全部楼层
xxman 发表于 16-4-2013 02:34 AM
Nino Schurter wins World Cup #1 on 650b wheels.他身高5尺8寸(1.72M)
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/ ...

看来我要把29er丢掉了。。。
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发表于 16-4-2013 03:00 AM | 显示全部楼层
xxman 发表于 16-4-2013 02:34 AM
Nino Schurter wins World Cup #1 on 650b wheels.他身高5尺8寸(1.72M)
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/ ...

听你这么一说26"和29''不就开始走入历史了。。。
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发表于 16-4-2013 03:01 AM | 显示全部楼层
瓦特普 发表于 15-4-2013 11:58 AM
很多时候不是喜不喜欢的问题而是适不适合比较重要,很多新手都向俺问意见,26或者29?俺都会回答26,但如 ...

这些只是Middle Range 的上坡而已,Top Range 的山坡还有很多。
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发表于 16-4-2013 03:07 AM | 显示全部楼层
maxlee_76 发表于 15-4-2013 12:13 PM
等SRAM出便宜版本11speed應該可以決絕上山問題。

28T crank + 10-42T cassette

42T 除 28T = 1.5圈 ,36T 除 22T= 1.64圈,你说可以解决上山的问题,你的数学是哪一个老师教的

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发表于 16-4-2013 03:18 AM | 显示全部楼层
瓦特普 发表于 15-4-2013 03:46 PM
Specification:

这辆如可以一次过骑得上升旗山的的话,Kayuh Lasak 一定在100名以内
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发表于 16-4-2013 03:41 AM | 显示全部楼层
Nino Schurter – Interview and 650B.
Friday 1st of June 2012, Update.
A quick update note we are at the DH world cup and asking Scott about a 650B bike… everyone looked rather uncomfortable when the question was asked… here for story.

Update 6th of July 2012.
We managed to try a 650B bike today and we have to concur with what Nino says.
Article here.

Now the  Original Story…
Nino Schurter is at Massa Vecchia near Massa Marittima training with the Scott team for the current 2012 season and developing bikes.
The first thing to note was the relaxed atmosphere and focus that the whole team has at the moment. The bike development squad were focusing on testing 650B, 29er and 26″ bikes in various flavours, including some secret project bikes.
Other than that It was business as usual with Nino focusing on his training, in this an Olympic year. Nino spoke to us about his riding and current bikes.
Taking time out to chat.

When did you start riding?
I grew up in the mountains in a village and was alpine skiing, for summer training I started to ride bikes. I then once I did a local race and won in my category, I was 7 years old so it is along time now I have been racing.

Why XC and not DH?
I did DH races for a while, but I really like in XC that you have the endurance and technical skills and everything together makes for me a nice sport. When you practice you can go everywhere you can climb up really nice mountains and it’s training!

What about bikes? At the moment you seem to have quite a few possibilities to choose from…Why the 650B in South Africa?
Yer, for sure in the past years the big wheel advance has grown but a 29er has never fitted me perfectly. The bike for me is too big. I can’t have my perfect race position on it because the handle bar is too high and never felt that good on a 29er. For sure you have an advantage with big wheels, then when less than a year ago we started the 650B project…the first time on that bike the fit for my body size and everything was just perfect, everything was in proportion. I think it is not just something like a size  in-between, it is really the golden centre.
Nino is constantly riding a 650B size bike now.

How is rolling compared to a 26″?
It is much much smoother, not that hectic. It is rolling much smoother but still in cornering it is feeling like a 26″. With the 29er sometimes you need more power to put the bike in the corner, with the 650B it is like cornering with a 26″. When you go straight or over rocks its rolling much smoother you feel quite a big difference compared with a 26″. It is not a big difference with the wheel size but it is quite a bit different for riding and I think for me it is the perfect wheel size. I’m quite sure in the coming years it will be one of the wheel sizes everyone uses.

Are there courses that the 29er is good for still?
It depends on your riding style and how tall you are. I would say the most XC riders they are between 170-180 cm, and at that height the 29er is not the best size.  You are more between the wheels and not on the wheels. For all those riders 650B is the best choice. Also for acceleration you feel it is lighter you don’t have a heavy fork, everything is lighter so in my eyes for XC it is the perfect size 650B. 29er makes sense for tall racers, or if they are not riding that aggressive. I talked to a lot of other riders that are not riding Scott and they said that they want to have from their bike makers the 650B. Im sure in 2 years in the world cup, there will be more 650B bikes than 26″ and 29er.

这里还会有人要教Nino用什么方式来骑29ER 吗? 这是Nino的FB https://www.facebook.com/NinoSchurter

@dreamkl   你表达不出的话我已经替你表达了,你接下来的目标27.5寸,几时要组装


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发表于 16-4-2013 04:01 AM | 显示全部楼层
Nino 2012 Olympic 参赛时的车架是Scott RC 26寸的, DT Swiss Fork 也是用26寸的Crown 改装加Slip 来提高的。
本帖最后由 xxman 于 16-4-2013 04:16 AM 编辑

27.5 nino.jpg

这张图较清楚

这张图较清楚
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发表于 16-4-2013 08:50 AM | 显示全部楼层
@smec6d  我的算法是后面转一圈,前面需要转多少圈,你的算法是前面转一圈,后面转多少圈。
我的就像马币兑换新币的Rate,你的是新币兑换马币的Rate ,不一样吗
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