【16/17赛季 英超联赛第5轮】沃特福德 3-1 曼联 ~ 震撼3连败 ,不能继续找藉口 !

jameshook

lamp88 发表于 19-9-2016 01:11 PM
问题是。。我车也还没解决到 Kante 配谁 才能升 level

目前 Kante + Matic 应该不是最佳人选。。。 还在实验当中，下周就客挑 工厂了，连败也可能

蛮看好今年的车仔的，没想到还输给鸟队

天然夜行者

Mourinho told BT Sport: "There's no debate, no controversy. It's an obvious situation, like last week against Manchester City, but it's something I cannot control or be critical with. In the first half, for the first 25 or 30 minutes, we didn't play well. That's something we can control and improve, then the referee and linesman's mistake is not under my control. I can do nothing to improve it.

"The second half was much better, we got the draw [equalising at 1-1] then, after that, we were the team [who looked likelier to win]. [Heurelho] Gomes made a phenomenal save [from a Zlatan Ibrahimovic header]. Luck is not something we can control. What we can control is individual and collective mistakes. The second goal is an individual mistake. We know we have to press the wing backs outside the box. Then, another individual mistake [for the third goal]."

天然夜行者

Mourinho continued on his theme of the players' errors in his post-match news conference, and said it is his job to ensure they are cut out in future.

"I feel that some individuals probably feel the pressure and responsibility too much," he said. "But from a collective point of view, I only have good things to say about them. At 1-1 everyone thinks we are going to win the game. We were showing complete control, intensity, creation.

"But their second goal is a mistake that goes against our plan and our training, because our intention was for their wing-backs to be pressed and not let them progress. And what happened was the guy gets the ball 20-25 metres away from our box and instead of being pressed, we give him the space to progress. [Nordin] Amrabat receives the ball and our left-back [Shaw] is 25 metres from him instead of five.

"But even at 25 you have to jump and go and press, but no, we wait. This is a tactical but also a mental attitude. It's something that doesn't become perfect in a couple of weeks. So we have to improve, no doubt, individually and collectively. And that's my job.

"We started the season very well with [winning] the Community Shield and three victories in a row in the Premier League, the best start that a new manager has had at Manchester United I think. But was I thinking that my team was ready, perfect, unbeatable? Not at all.

"I was completely aware that we were not perfect, with lots of players who are not end products and can make their own mistakes."

lamp88

天然夜行者 发表于 19-9-2016 01:11 PM
我個人認爲是moyes時期最低。。。

LVG時期，第二個賽季后半段吧。。。

酱子就是期待复苏期了。。

give 穆 more time.... 他依然是我的 the special one。。。 但现在不是我的 the support one  

Lc_ong

jameshook 发表于 19-9-2016 12:50 PM
找范加尔来做什么？
就是要顶替废材莫耶斯，改造球队，提升成绩。
范加尔做不到，那就滚蛋由穆来替代。
输球还要赖是范加尔之前的战术影响？
这简直是开玩笑，都踢了几场了？
那瓜帅的球队怎么没被之前的教练 ...

瓜帅把会影响球队的球员都卖了，我魔还留着。。

天然夜行者

Scholes said: "The quality on the ball was as poor as you've seen from a Man United team, and that's just the way it is at the minute. You're not sure what you're going to get.

"Rashford is probably the only shining light really and he didn't have his best game today, but he looked a threat. I just think in possession Man United were really, really poor. Individually it wasn't good enough. In possession it wasn't good enough. So sloppy, giving the ball away all the time."

"I thought Fellaini was alright, he does a job which stops the other team. But I think if you're Manchester United you need more than that," Scholes told BT Sport. "I think you need someone who can stop the play -- but he needs to be capable of controlling the game of football as well, playing forward, passing forward.

"As well as he [Fellaini] has done in the first three or four games, I just can't understand why Michael Carrick's here. It looked last year like he was leaving, he's not been involved a minute of the season, so what he's done I don't know.

"Obviously [Bastian] Schweinsteiger -- he [Mourinho] is not keen on him. They need to get a playmaker in there. You're coming to Watford, you're not going to Arsenal."

Scholes saw United repeatedly picked open by Watford, and added: "I expected them to be a lot tighter defensively, especially with bringing Chris Smalling in, but they were all over the place and every time a ball came into the box you felt Watford were going to score.

"Something's not right there. The cohesion of the team isn't there. He [Mourinho] needs to find the right mix of players."

jameshook

Lc_ong 发表于 19-9-2016 01:21 PM
瓜帅把会影响球队的球员都卖了，我魔还留着。。

也就是说曼联还没找到有最终决定权的教练。。。
也就是压制球员的能力，找不会费爷啊

jameshook

还有这场换H21下去好过M7，M7根本不应该在曼联。

Lc_ong

jameshook 发表于 19-9-2016 01:26 PM
也就是说曼联还没找到有最终决定权的教练。。。
也就是压制球员的能力，找不会费爷啊

穆帅应该是不敢不放鲁尼，之前更衣室失控有阴影。比较想看波霸往前移，后面还有盲侠，师奶，爆炸头，卡里克可以用。（鲁尼在场外等庆祝进球）

crazyivan

三連敗或許是敲醒阿穆的響鐘，連敗過後或許就是連勝的開始

樂觀一點先

Alehuyaaa

jameshook 发表于 19-9-2016 12:50 PM
找范加尔来做什么？
就是要顶替废材莫耶斯，改造球队，提升成绩。
范加尔做不到，那就滚蛋由穆来替代。
输球还要赖是范加尔之前的战术影响？
这简直是开玩笑，都踢了几场了？
那瓜帅的球队怎么没被之前的教练 ...

所以我说曼联球员必须忘记之前的踢发，这几场输球，完全就是看到在中后场原地传接球，要不然就回传给de gea，然后大脚上去。一直这样，又如何有效地进攻呢

Maxi

天然夜行者 发表于 19-9-2016 12:52 PM
我又想到可憐的pato...現在怎樣了？

好像去了Villareal

jameshook

Alehuyaaa 发表于 19-9-2016 01:55 PM
所以我说曼联球员必须忘记之前的踢发，这几场输球，完全就是看到在中后场原地传接球，要不然就回传给de gea，然后大脚上去。一直这样，又如何有效地进攻呢

狐狸回勇，再这样的表现，下一次等着被狐狸轮吧。。。

Alehuyaaa

jameshook 发表于 19-9-2016 02:03 PM
狐狸回勇，再这样的表现，下一次等着被狐狸轮吧。。。

下场打狐狸？我觉得曼联球员太慢了，而且缺乏灵性。有速度有灵性的Martial又状态低迷前场中轴除了Pogba，其他的又慢。Pogba 除了第一场，其他场次又打不出身价。头疼啊头疼。。。

jameshook

Alehuyaaa 发表于 19-9-2016 02:08 PM
下场打狐狸？我觉得曼联球员太慢了，而且缺乏灵性。有速度有灵性的Martial又状态低迷前场中轴除了Pogba，其他的又慢。Pogba 除了第一场，其他场次又打不出身价。头疼啊头疼。。。

对，这个星期六对狐狸。
周四的League cup就不提了。
分分钟4连败，难得大家还那么淡定

Maxi

看盘口就懂曼联有没有救了

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lamp88 发表于 19-9-2016 10:56 AM
好久不见 。。。  

只要不失球，就能至少打个和或取胜

昨晚有幸看到你魔球赛。。。发现 Pogba 和 爆炸头 都同时没能做好掩盖工作，单靠进攻来拟补后防不足 不能够打天下啊 :r ...

Cheh!! 你这假中立... 上次给包姥教训不够吗？

输给鸟队这种烂队还敢过来 ah ji ah jor..

Pui!!

如果啊布没有收购chelsea， 没有大开水喉.. 你这个 plastic 球迷会support chelsea meh?

好心滚回去你的垃圾车楼啦!!

Penangkia

jameshook 发表于 19-9-2016 02:10 PM
对，这个星期六对狐狸。
周四的League cup就不提了。
分分钟4连败，难得大家还那么淡定

league cup 是没问题的。
周六的联赛将会再和一场， 最多也只是小赢一球。

不过，我看好和球。。。

我军是肯定再拿三分了

jameshook

Penangkia 发表于 19-9-2016 02:48 PM
league cup 是没问题的。
周六的联赛将会再和一场， 最多也只是小赢一球。

不过，我看好和球。。。

有你在，曼联的比赛我就比较放心