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【网友爆料】花逾50万买高级公寓,结果连像样的前厅都没有?

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发表于 29-8-2017 08:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
其实condo和apartment的区别是什么?
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发表于 29-8-2017 09:05 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
哈哈哈 笑死我了....   从 blk B or C 搭电梯到6楼.... 走 走 走 .... blk A 搭电梯 .... 哈哈。

解决方案就是底层是 carpark or unit ??
carpark 还可以的 ...  改下风水还是可以的。     主要是怕 墙壁是主墙  变动不到 ...  
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发表于 29-8-2017 09:08 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
Richman-S 发表于 29-8-2017 07:34 PM
当初我买现在的“二手condo”时接近50万朋友也说很贵,可以买排屋了。。。但是说实话我没有后悔因为附近都是高级住宅,很多shopping mall,高级酒店最重要还有MRT靠近这里。所以这个地点真的很方便。万一以后要买另一 ...

因为 你是 KL , 在 johor 还是不太适合...
地面土地还很多,condo 林立很大一部分是发展商跟风罢了。    condo 的物价很有问题....  
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发表于 29-8-2017 10:02 PM | 显示全部楼层
prince 发表于 29-8-2017 08:48 PM
johor的屋子是全国最贵的,政府组屋都要15万了,才50万你还要怎样?还不够给国阵喝kopi,为了你难道还要重建?要美美去槟城啦!

johor全国最贵?什么时候的事?
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发表于 29-8-2017 10:19 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
买之前有做过功课么?







CONDOMINIUMS OR SERVICED APARTMENTS? 7 THINGS YOU MUST KNOW BEFORE YOU BUY!

Many residential properties are being marketed with the promise that residents can “live, work and play” all in one place. They often look like condos, but are usually called “serviced apartments”. Now, there are newer commercial property concepts, which may be misunderstood as being similar to serviced apartments. These are marketed as office cum residences, usually called SOFO, SOVO, or Flexi/Designer Suites. These may have residential features such as bedroom space, bathroom and pantry but are also suitable as office space.

While these properties are attractive to potential homeowners, there are important differences between condos and serviced apartments, and even SOFOs, and it pays to be aware of them.



Wait…isn’t a “serviced apartment” just another type of condo or apartment?


Well…no.

“Serviced apartments” are commercial units, fully-furnished, with services such as housekeeping, room service, and concierge. They are usually rented out for short-term or long term to tourists, business travellers, or expats. On the other hand, condos are private properties meant to be occupied by homeowners or long-term tenants. However, the lines are often blurred between the two types of properties these days.

The core difference is that the land status of condos is “residential”, whereas the land status of serviced apartments is “commercial”. The laws, regulations and functions surrounding these types of properties are quite different, and can affect buyers’ legal rights and lifestyles.



HERE ARE 7 KEY DIFFERENCES YOU NEED TO CONSIDER BEFORE SIGNING ON THE DOTTED LINE

1. You pay different utility charges
Because of their land status, serviced apartments are charged commercial rates for utilities, which are much higher than residential rates. Deposits collected by utility companies are also higher. Some developers do try to work around this by negotiating with utility companies for lower rates. They may or may not be successful, so it pays to confirm this with the developer.

2. You pay different tax rates
Quit rent and assessment rates for serviced apartments are also calculated at commercial rates, much higher than condos. Some developers try to get lower rates by finding some loopholes in zoning laws to reclassify the apartments. But again, they may or may not succeed in doing so, so do check and make sure.

3. You will be living in different environments
Condos are designed for privacy, and security controls the flow of unknown persons into the property.

Most serviced apartments are attached to a shopping mall or retail shops. You have no control over the type of businesses there and the flow of non-residents in the area. But if you like the idea of convenience, where you live upstairs and can just hop into the lift to go downstairs for dinner or a movie, this is a great plus point.

But there are also some serviced apartments that are not attached to any malls or shops. This could be because the developer had converted the land status from “residential” to “commercial”. Why would they do this? Well, maybe the next point might shed some light.



4. You will have different population densities
Residential developments are built based on units or population per land size. However, commercial developments are based on plot ratio, which is the total built-up area per land size. This affects the number of neighbours you will have.

For example, say a developer gets permission to build a condominium based on a population of 1000 people per acre. Assuming 5 people live in a 1,000 square foot unit, a developer can only build a maximum of 200 units per acre of land.

One the other hand, let’s say a developer gets permission to build serviced apartments based on a plot ratio of 1:10. Now, for the same one acre of land (measuring about 44,000 square feet), the developer is allowed to build up to 440,000 square feet. That means developers can now easily build 400 units of 1,000 square foot apartments! Or even more, if they build smaller units.


5. You MAY be governed by different laws
The Housing Development Act (HDA) places strict standards on developers of residential properties to protect home buyers. Although serviced apartments are built on commercial land, they have been classified as residential properties, so buyers are protected by the HDA as well.

BUT...the HDA may NOT cover developers of certain types of “residential” properties built on commercial land, such as SOFOs, SOVOs, or Flexi/Designer Suites.

These may be marketed as residential cum office space, but they may be legally classified as office/commercial properties, which do not come under the HDA. Do check these properties’ status to be sure what type of property you are actually buying.

6. There is no standard S&P for commercial properties
Under the HDA, developers and buyers sign a standard S&P agreement. The agreement’s terms are set by law and non-negotiable. This applies to both condos and serviced apartments. However, there is no standard S&P agreement for the other types of properties mentioned above, if they are classified as office/commercial properties.

The only legally-binding conditions on such commercial property developers are found in the S&P agreement. So if you do decide to go ahead and buy such a property, read the agreements carefully to make sure they are fair.

7. You MAY be regulated by different Ministries
If buyers of condos or serviced apartments under HDA have problems with the developer, they can go to the Ministry of Housing and Local Government for help. However, the Ministry may not be able to help buyers of properties that do not come under the HDA. If problems crop up with developers of office/commercial units mentioned above, the recourse is usually to go through lawyers or the courts.



SO, IS IT BETTER TO BUY A CONDO OR SERVICED APARTMENT?

Well, it depends on what you want. If living in the midst of a happening commercial area is your thing (and you are ok with the higher bills or possible issues with red tape), then a serviced apartment could be right for you. But if you want a more private residential area, and lower bills, then perhaps a condo would be better.
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发表于 29-8-2017 10:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
这就是我不买新projects的高楼的原因之一
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发表于 29-8-2017 10:25 PM | 显示全部楼层
Richman-S 发表于 29-8-2017 07:25 PM
是service apartment,比公寓更高一级。但是我不懂他那个是怎样,雪隆区通常service apartment楼下是中型shopping mall来的。所以通常很贵。就像starling mall楼上的apartment当初卖价就已经100万了,现在不止

Starling mall楼上的有起apartment?不是起在旁边吗?
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发表于 29-8-2017 10:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
残兵之上將潘凤 发表于 29-8-2017 10:02 PM
johor全国最贵?什么时候的事?

Penang人讲Penang屋子全国最贵,Johor人讲Johor屋子全国最贵。所以结论是KL的屋子是最便宜的。
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发表于 29-8-2017 10:43 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 29-8-2017 10:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
够力咯~
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发表于 29-8-2017 11:11 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
Richman-S 发表于 29-8-2017 07:51 PM
有些service apartment是会帮屋主出租给游客的,好像hotel那样。我自己也租过两次。一次在槟城一次在KL tower 附近。
而且maintenance会比公寓贵,因为condo 属于 residential property, service apartment是commer ...

并不是说收得贵就比较高级。

两个都不一样Title,怎么比?
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发表于 30-8-2017 12:03 AM | 显示全部楼层
看了那个Ablock门口。。。好像已经违反ubbl了,如果是自己的屋子还好。bomba当初怎么会让发展商合格的?就不怕住客跑去跟市议会告状吗?
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发表于 30-8-2017 12:15 AM | 显示全部楼层
service apartment是商業地契不是住宅地契
因此不受HDA的保障
買來自住其實很吃虧下
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发表于 30-8-2017 12:48 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
看到那个后楼梯直接傻眼
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发表于 30-8-2017 02:51 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
Tampoi小地方会建service apartment ?
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发表于 30-8-2017 04:40 AM | 显示全部楼层
业主们同心的话,可以采取法律诉讼
我也是遇到无良发展商,几十个人请了律师告上法庭,下个月就开庭审判了
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发表于 30-8-2017 07:26 AM | 显示全部楼层
比較想知道當初買時沒有看整個BLOCK A樓的設計圖的嗎?
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发表于 30-8-2017 08:34 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
假冒是神50 发表于 29-8-2017 02:43 PM
TOKONG淋利用SPC特权'违..

这个柔佛人搬到槟城简直活不下去
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发表于 30-8-2017 08:42 AM | 显示全部楼层
prince 发表于 29-8-2017 08:48 PM
johor的屋子是全国最贵的,政府组屋都要15万了,才50万你还要怎样?还不够给国阵喝kopi,为了你难道还要重建?要美美去槟城啦!

你哪里听来的?

租屋80k就有了咯~ 我可以买了80k再卖你150K的

150K在JB还是有廉价屋买的(二手的)



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发表于 30-8-2017 09:06 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
广告欺骗了人
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